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Horses Learning Through Mimicry
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Does anybody train through mimicry? I've seen a few videos now where the horse is trick trained or "liberty" trained through mimicry of the trainer. Such as training the horse to do a spanish walk while cuing and doing an exaggerated walk yourself. I've even seen people "cantering" next to their horse, and doing "lead changes". I find this interesting, we touched on horses learning through mimicry in Equine Behavior, but we never came to a solid answer on if horses actually do understand this type of training, and how far can you take it?

A foal more often then not learns bad behaviors from it's dam, if she herself has poor habits. As an example I once had the hardship of handling a 2 month old filly up to a yearling that was by far the most ill mannered foal I've ever seen. At 2 months old she was already kicking out at people who entered the stall, attacking you if you were trying to handle her etc. Just like mommy!

So if a foal can learn mimicry from another horse, does it only learn from it's dam or can this go further down the road? Such as learning as a yearling from a babysitter horse (perhaps in the winter this horse paws at ice on the edge of a pond and water comes out, then the yearling learns this skill through watching his babysitter)? Can it go even further to things like the horse's first ride? If it sees another horse being ridden, whom is an older reliable buddy (perhaps the babysitter horse?), will the horse be more willing to stay calm and accept a rider on it's back? If he sees Lightning, his friend being calm while being ridden, will he too learn that this is "normal" through mimicking his reliable friend?

Interested in what everybody thinks about this, am I way off here? Does anybody have experience with training this way? Curious to know!

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I am sure horses mimic each other, mimicking their human may be a learned thing, but they do that too. When I take my sometimes spooky Arab out on the trails with other horses, he is much calmer with them around because they are calmer. When I want to do some thing new to him, I run his barn mate through it first. She's a been- there-done -that  28 year old who never gets uppity about anything. He's a bit jumpy and suspicious of anything new, but will accept things more readily if he sees she's not concerned. Big scary trucks drive by the pasture, he used to take off like a shot, when she's nearby, chomping away on the pasture grass, he reacts about 90% less. He wouldn't even use his run in shelter, through the blustery storms and winter winds, he stood out in the weather. I even sat in the shelter with his hay and feed to encourage him but he would shoot out of there at the slightest sound. When she came along, little missy always stepped out of the rain at the first drop and stood in the shelter. Lo and behold there was my guy in soft spring rain, standing in the shelter!
  Ellen, in her posts about horse body language tells a story of how she introduced a tarp to her colt by having the Daddy demonstrate how to step on it. Then did no follow up. A year later reintroduced the tarp, the colt did the same thing Daddy did the year before. That's not just mimickry, that's a memory like an elephant.

-- Edited by Marlene on Monday 25th of October 2010 04:35:07 PM

-- Edited by Marlene on Monday 25th of October 2010 04:36:09 PM

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"Ellen, in her posts about horse body language tells a story of how she introduced a tarp to her colt by having the Daddy demonstrate how to step on it. Then did no follow up. A year later reintroduced the tarp, the colt did the same thing Daddy did the year before. That's not just mimickry, that's a memory like an elephant."

Incredible story. They really never do forget, but they sure do forgive!


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Horses also learn through telepathy.
A test has been done numerous times; place a horse with vices in stall next to a horse without vices. Neither get to see eachothers actions...it will not be long before the horse without vices "MAY" start one or more....notice the opperative word here is may.............the point being made is the horse can communicate with out sound or sight

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It's so true. Horses have the second largest memory in the world. Thank goodness they are also so forgiving.

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Forgiving, unlike the human part of the equation, at least as toward other humans. LOL

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Wow telepathy? Thats a new one. I will definately have to look in to that.

Say, for cribbing, it is likely that the horse is experiencing the same boredom/anxiety the other one is and will instinctively display the same behaviours even if they cant see each other. Alternatively it could very well be sound motivated (the chewing of the wood) or the smell of the chewed wood.

I'm not sold ;)

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