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Well Schooled

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What are your tips for sitting the trot?
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How would you teach someone to quietly sit the trot, while keeping steady legs?

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I'm just learning sitting trot, and my coach tells me to anchor my butt in the saddle and turn my toes in, but keep my feet level. It also helps to put all your weight on the balls of your feet, and turn them in as much as possible. And most important - sit back! I find myself leaning forward too often and it throws the balance off. Also, don't rush right in to doing full laps of sitting trot; start on a 20m circle (perhaps being lunged) and sit 2 beats, then post, then sit more, then post, etc... until you can sit quite a few beats comfortably. And do some canter before you start sitting because it helps stretch and loosen your horses back.

Hope that helped! :)

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I am currently having trouble with the sitting trot. I am wondering if I'm just not supple enough in my back and hips. Im ok if Im going slow. I'll be interested in hearing all the tips you get. smile.gif

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You just have to remember to keep your body loose, especially your pelvis. As soon as you tense up or tighten your legs you confuse the horse and lose the 'proper' position. It may look bad, but don't worry, you'll overcome it! For my first while I was getting air time between my butt and the saddle! I haven't got it perfect yet, but I've come a long way.

Try doing lots of canter-trot and trot-canter transitions; it should keep your body loose. :)

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Pick a time when your horse is fairly tired and relaxed, so that his trot will be more relaxed, and my own seat is deeper after riding a while. My guy is pretty bouncy when fresh, harder to stick my butt down. Slow your horses trot to just above a walk at first. I also agree with sitting a shorter stretch before trying  longer stretches of trot. It takes time to build the right muscles, so a little practice each day. And light hands.

-- Edited by Marlene on Monday 22nd of November 2010 09:44:03 AM

-- Edited by Marlene on Monday 22nd of November 2010 09:45:34 AM

-- Edited by Marlene on Monday 22nd of November 2010 09:52:50 AM

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Throw in a few posts in between. Think of it as a rhythm and that your hips and knees are shock absorbers. Remember to breathe- it so helps.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ALCkUEaZIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ezgqy_wao


..... Jane Savoie has many many tips, check out her other videos too

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I would ask the rider to do a lot of Pilates, especially Pilates on the ball. If you are are at stiff in your hips/lower back and hamstrings you will have problems.

For the average rider you start by doing 2 sitting and 2 posts at the trot. Over a period of time you can lengthen this out to 3 sitting, then 4, then 5 and so on. Do not make the mistake of slowing the horse down to make life easier for the rider.

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when sitting trot, think that your butt is "glued" into the saddle. i find that really helps.

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a big part of the sitting trot in my opinion is how the horse goes - if the horse is over the back the sitting trot is just so much easier. 

so learning the sitting trot on a dressage school master really helps if you have the opportunity.

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think loosey goosey through the lower back and hips...relax the knees and stretch down and around the horse through the lower leg....think up from the waist....keep eyes up and forward.

When people grab with their knee they pinch themselves out of the tack...and their upper body comes forward...that's 'loosey goosey through the hips and lower back, long, long leg...and eyes up and forward.....

a little bit at a time. If the horse starts to run...slow them. And working without stirrups....at a walk and trot....teaches people to sit deep.

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I used to be good at sitting trot, came natural, but then I took 2 months off and completely ruined all my work...what helped me regain my balance and motion was a used a western saddle. In order to feel comfy in a western saddle you NEED to sit back, so I used that and after about 10 minutes I was able to sit the trot good. It also fixed my main problem with cantering. After having a steady sitting trot, then going into the canter, I was steady, and able to sit the canter(unless the horse picks up the wrong lead, that throws me off balance.)

So if it's possible, switch saddles. They don't need to know western, just use the saddle to help them find there balance. (I ride English, but have had some informal western schooling. My friend has showed me a bit when we exercise her cousins horse and in lessons I've picked up a few things, like when starting the cool down this week, I asked my instructor to show me how to hold the reins for neck reining since the horse I was on knew it, and I figured out long ago that he responds to the reins on his neck)

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All of these suggestions are great and may work for some people but not others, and visa-versa. Personally I have always found that a sitting trot is easiest when you think about absorbing the impact through your joints. You have to remain supple, loose, and most of all moving with your horse. If you are against the forward motion of your horse at all, you're not going to be able to sit your trot very well, and you will likely tense up trying to find the motion again. Keeping a supple hip and thigh is very essential, as well as absorbing the shock in your knees and ankles. Look for example at any grand prix dressage rider. See how their joints react to the trot and other gaits, and notice how 'with' their horse they are.

That being said, some techniques described above may be necessary to help you figure out exactly how to gain that understanding of how to move with your horse, and absorb the impact. Practice makes perfect!

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Great tips from everybody! I'd like to toss in, no stirrup work might help as well aww

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All the tips are great. I just had a lesson with a dressage trainer/rider Madeleine Austin. She had me doing the sitting trot with no stirrups and at first pulling myself into the saddle with one hand and then letting go. It was amazing. I couldn't believe I was doing it. There is also a little "pushing" involved that I can't really explain, it was more of a thought really.

I went home and tried on my super bouncy ottb and it didnt exactly feel the same but the footing wasnt so good and etc, so Im not too worried about it.

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Yes, holding the pommel for a few strides is a great idea for getting the feel. Also, if you can do a few strides with your legs up and away from the saddle, you'll be able to find you balance and really get your seat bones down.

Sitting the trot and staying quite in your legs and body is hard though. I'm always working on it.

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Yearling

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Also when you are posting you think up down up down with every stride. When you are sitting the rot think down down down down instead.

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Hi,  there is great book I read called "An Anatomy of Riding" by Volker Schusdziarra and Heinrich Schudziarra.  It goes into detail about the hows and whys, and what muscles are used in riding.  Great book!! improved my seat and my understanding of riding.

Happy riding smile


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Its title is now An Anatomy of Dressage.  Great book, really helps.

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If we're going with books that will teach you a lot about how to become aware of your different body parts while riding in order to become more secure and centered, Centered Riding by Sally Swift is always a great place to start. There is now a Centered Riding 2, as well as two videos, if you're interested in checking out her work further. http://www.centeredriding.org can tell you more.

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Yearling

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I think lunge lessons are the best way to learn sitting trot. Have someone lunge you on a horse that is good on the lunge. The horse should have sidereins on so that you can let go of the reins and it will remain steady and on the bit. Find any Pony Club manual and it will have a list of exercises you can try. This is an excellent way for you to concentrate on your position without having to worry about controlling the horse.

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(1) the rider must understand the sitting trot: Necessay Reading   (http://www.rogerguevremont.com/pdfFile/LearningTrot.pdf)

(2) firm upper body, no flexibility 

(3) DO NOT PUSH foot onto stirrup

(4) some flex in hips to move with the horse

Sitting trot is not for beginners  Rider should no longer tilt forward or back when horse starts or stops.  Not necassary (or even desireable) to learn posting first, this adds unnecessary ideas about it should feel.



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