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Grand Prix

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Date: Jan 12, 2011
Whitmire vs. NCHA Civil Trial Begins
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   Is anybody else following this story? The article doesn't mention that Whitmire was receiving funds for riding other people's horses, although it does say she never acted as a professional trainer. I know under the rules if you are paid to ride (directly or indirectly), you're not eligible for non-pro/amateur status any longer, regardless if you are a "professional" or not.

  I will say though, that the NCHA handled the situation poorly, they should of just approached Whitmire like she was a human being and not an underhanded mugger.

http://www.quarterhorsenews.com/index.php/cutting/cutting-statistics/all-industry-statistics/10122-whitmire-vs-ncha-civil-trial-begins.html

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Grand Prix

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I hadn't heard of this story before now, but I've got to say that I agree with your statement about how the NCHA should have handled this a little better from the looks of things.

I'm not entirely sure that the rules for being paid in any form = no longer amateur/non-pro are entirely fair, but I'm not sure that there is another way to govern this. If you rest the decision of whether or not a person was acting as a professional or as an amateur, on whether or not they *feel* like they were representing themselves one way or another, I think there would be a lot more scandal and controversy. However, if a youth member is paid a few bucks to take a horse out to the pen and get him back in shape, is that youth now a professional? I think this is a fine line that could possibly use a little closer inspection in the future.

Interesting article though, thanks for sharing.

ETA: Using a youth was just an example, age isn't really a factor here, but it's easier to understand (I think) from the point of view I presented, as opposed to an adult with more educated decision making abilities taking on this situation.

-- Edited by Barnmouser Ash on Wednesday 12th of January 2011 03:54:43 PM

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Date: Jan 25, 2011
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Ms. Whitmire clearly held herself out as a professional barrel horse trainer and took money from several clients as a trainer.  Also, she was in her late 20's/early 30's when this happened - certainly old enough to know better!no

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Date: Jan 25, 2011
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Well, the jury reached its opinion and they found: that the NCHA had breached its unwritten agreement with her and that they had falsely imprisoned her.

The jury awarded her $70,000 in lost value for the horses she couldn't show (she was suing for $130,000), but they did not award any monetary damages for the 'false imprisonment.'

Here's the full story on quarterhorsenews.com.






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Date: Jan 26, 2011
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Ok, lots of reports here, but what exactly happened? I've been reading bits and pieces but I still can't find what she was accused of. I must be really blind - or dense!!

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Hi Barb, I believe she was originally accused of getting paid to train/ride barrel racing horses at her facility. Under the NCHA rules they are very very strict about who is considered an amateur and who is considered a professional. This is mainly due to the pay outs in classes (they're pretty lucrative for the most part). Under the rules you have to apply and prove that you are an amateur rider, and you have to maintain that status or you will be "dealt with harshly" (right in the rules!). According to the NCHA they found evidence that Whitmire was receiving funds for training and riding, so she is no longer eligible for amateur status and is rather a professional. Although the NCHA didn't act too professional in how they handled the situation.

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