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Foal

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Date: Jan 30, 2011
tips to starting young horse - lazy
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Hi,  I have a 3 1/2 year old draft/TB that I just bought in december.   He's a big boy 16.1 and has a laid back, gentle temperment.  He's had a saddle on him but hasn't been backed.   He's also never been taught how to lunge on a lunge line and he's lazy!!  I can get him to go round at walk but he won't stay out on circle and I have to use whip (several times) to get him to trot and he almost drags me around.  I have trouble getting him to trot even when I lead him.

I want to back him but thought I'd start with the whole lunge thing, but that's not working for me.  Any advice?  Its also a bit difficult as I don't have arena...I'm working outside in snow which isn't ideal.

I've attached a picture of him.  I'm also on search for a new name for him...he came with "Bling"  which I'm not overly fond of.

   

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december isn't very long and especially if you don't have an arena - fitness will help - just keep working at it. Avoid feeds with a lot of sugar or molasses.

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Welcome, Shannon : )

Excellent advice from Prospect : ) December isn't a long time from now and horses, 'specially the younger ones, can be slow to trust, even slower to comprehend. Take your time with him and don't be afraid to maximize the power of friendship : )

You might also try working more closely with him on the ground from a longer lead, teaching him to simply move away from you. Move the front end individually from the hind quarters and work from both sides, in both directions. Be specific and consistent in your aids. Then go back to the longeline and apply the same body language (basic "herding").

Lazy....could it be that the draft philosophy runs deep in your boy? Meaning, that he is thinking, and moving, in slow motion, unless inspired : )

Have fun with him, he looks like such a love!

-- Edited by justice on Sunday 30th of January 2011 07:36:36 PM

-- Edited by justice on Sunday 30th of January 2011 07:37:38 PM

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Foal

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Thanks...back to the basics it is. Today I worked with a long lead line and dressage whip to encourage him to walk around me and not walk to me! walk halt transitions with verbal commands. Need to find what motivates him.

and I agree, I think the draft in him is prominent in his behaviour...hopefully that will be a good thing and work to my advantage when I back him for first time.



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Why don't you ask your horse what name he wants?  If you get no response then suggest a few you like and ask him his favorite.  I have done this, and the horse started resonding to his new name just about right away.

I have found that doing an obstacle course helps in developing responsiveness to the lead rope or rein.  I just walk around the jumps in the ring, or just find some stuff lying around or go around some cars.  On the big guys it really helps in turning if you give your aid 1) when turning the horse toward you give the aid when the inside foot is in the air, and 2) when moving the horse away from you give your signal when the outside foot is in the air.  The horse cannot brace against you easily when you time your aids to their leg movements.

When I look at the picture I think hill work.  His hindquarters look like they need to develop muscle.  I know it is winter, but look around for the best hill (or on flat land the place with the longest rise) and start walking him up and down hill when the weather permits.  Start off slow, after a week or so then ask him to move a little faster.  It may take a month or two of regular work before he is ready to give you a good impulsive trot uphill.

It can take a while for some of the young ones to develop their muscles and their lung power.  Slow steady work now can pay off in the long run.  Have fun!

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yes I have my work cut out for me...he has no muscle in his hind quarters. I've introduced him to my other two and am hoping their play time will help to build some muscle.

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Congrats on your new horse! I too just bought a new horse. He's a young stallion (just turned 5 years) with a very gentle and calm temperament. People often look below to make sure he isn't actually a gelding because he is so calm. At first I had problems thinking he was too lazy. After speaking with my trainer though, we realized that he wasn't lazy but was in fact tired. He lacked conditioning. I bought him from a man who left him tied to a tree 24 hours a day. Needless to say he didn't get any exercise.

He grew tired after the first 10 or 15 minutes of exercise. So we have put him on a conditioning exercise and he is adjusting quickly. He is able to work for longer periods of time now. Have you tried conditioning your horse?

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Hi,  thanks for the advise.  I don't have a formal conditioning program but I have been trying to ramp up what I do with him.  He was left in a field like yours for the summer so has no muscle and hasn't been asked to focus on anything for any length of time.  I noticed when I got him he felt he was on his time and schedule so I've been spending a lot of time trying to put him on a schedule/routine where he gets used to working.   Its a slow process but I'll get there.

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