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Should Horse Whipping be Banned?
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Read this article. What do you think? I think where there's money involved, there will be whipping.

Good thing things are changing in the UK and Australia. At least there is a maximum number of smacks you can give. Hopefully something will be put in place in North America and other countries will follow.

 

Now, if only that could be monitored at private barns...

 

"Timmy Murphy riding Great Endeavour won The Paddy Power Gold Cup Steeple Chase at Cheltenham racecourse on Nov. 12, 2011 in Cheltenham, England. Tighter restrictions on the number of times jockeys can whip their horses has caused controversy this season. Animal rights activists want the whip banned outright. (Alan Crowhurst/Getty Images)

LONDON, United Kingdom — In Britain, horse racing is wildly popular. Millions of fans — including Her Majesty — pack the nation’s racecourses every year to watch equine athletes and their riders compete.

But this season, the Sport of Kings is embroiled in a heated debate over the jockey’s most iconic tool: the whip.

In October, the sport’s governing body unveiled new regulations halving the number of times a jockey can strike a horse during a race, with strict penalties including suspensions and loss of prize money.

Since then, the season has been a blur of suspensions, angry protests and rule revisions. The head of the jockeys’ union has called it “the most challenging time for jockeys for many decades.”"

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The whip became a public issue in Britain this April following the Aintree Grand National, the sport’s premiere event. Many spectators were horrified by winning jockey Jason Maguire’s flailing of Ballabriggs, his clearly-exhausted mount, in the final stretches of a race in which two horses sustained fatal injuries.

The wince-inducing race earned Maguire a five-day suspension for excessive whip use and prompted soul-searching within racing. “We have a public perception issue, and we need to protect the future of the sport,” said Robin Mounsey, spokesman for the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), which regulates the sport.



-- Edited by Barbara F on Wednesday 21st of December 2011 10:28:17 AM

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This is sort of a thought experiment so please bear with me.

I know, from galloping in the Forward Seat, that the faster the gallop the stronger the hold the horse takes with the bit. I personally think that this is to make up some the handicap of the weight of the rider, but I have no proof. One of the ways I would get the horse to go faster was to move my hands forward a little bit more and the horse would extend his stride (ideally.)

EVERY time the jockey whips the horse on the hindquarters the jockey has the reins in one hand, and from what I've seen they often drop all contact with the horse's mouth. So we see the horses running their fastest without being able to "lean" on the bit. The jockeys are unable to use their legs for signals, so that the only signals the jockeys have for going faster when they drop contact with the bit IS the whip, there is nothing else.

I would not want to be on a horse going that fast in close quarters without a whip, NOT to whip the horse to go faster but to give an added emphasis for any order to move the horse to the side (using the whip on the shoulder or waving the whip by the horse's head.)

Could not the jockeys ride on contact, giving the horse the support with the bit that they often want, not take any hands off the reins, and use the whip as an accessory signal? Of course the horses would have to be trained to seek this support of the bit but that is not difficult at all if the bit is at all comfortable.

I have no idea how this would transfer to bitless race riding.

But I agree, the present use of the whip in horse racing should be banned. The answer to a horse running out of gas during a race is better physical conditioning. If a horse has nothing left whipping does no good, the tank is empty. Sort of like whipping your car when you let it run out of gas. Useless. And, since the horse is living, IMHO flogging a tiring horse is torture and abuse.


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Too many people use whips in anger and as a weapon rather than an aid to tell the horse 'hey listen up now - I need your focus' Or as a little wake up...Whenever i see someone being hard on a horse at a public event I cringe thinking what that poor animal goes through at home - in private. Flailing an exhausted animal is dispicable....instead - at that point shouldn't you 'retire'...walk the animal till he/she is cool with a cooler and give them a good brush some water and electrolytes when it's safe, pats and love, and a good feed....

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August 30, 1999, Newcastle....Fabulon wins a 2 & 3/4 mile steeplechase in Spirit Bridle and the jockey did not use a whip on him.

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I just watched a replay of the Apr.11 Grand National. The whipping was for the last about thirty seconds of what seemed like a very long gruelling race. It wasn't nice to see, and has been apparently proven to not improve outcomes. I was actually far more concerned about the horses and jockeys who were injured or died as a result of one race. There are far too many entries in this one race, instead of 40 it should be 20. Maybe the height of the jumps should be looked at. I noticed the winning jockey in this race, although he was close to leading most of the way actually took the jumps a little slower than other jockeys, then made up the pace on the flat. One way to keep your horse a little safer and stay out of the crowd. Apparently many other steeple chase races are run with a much lower death or injury rate than the Grand National, something like 33 horses killed since year 2000 in Grand Nationals. The whipping is one of the lesser evils in this sport, and while not a great practice, I would bet a horse full of adrenaline doesn't feel much anyway. There is also the much larger issue of what happens to the also-rans, it seems most of these horses, or ones who didn't make the cut in the first place become throw-aways. These are much greater problems. Given all this, if 30 seconds of whip saved the winner from becoming a no-name, the jockey may have saved a life. I think they need regulations making the races safer for jockeys and horses, and dealing with the after care of all the horses involved.



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