Mass Animal Deaths

Nikki Salo · Grand Prix

Mass Animal Deaths

justice · Grand Prix

I had just recently read on line somewhere that sudden cluster die-offs 'specially among common and larger populations are not unusual, nearing 100 globally per year, and that the frustration lies in high degree of news and info yet the slower, more prolific numbers of species nearing extinction are vastly ignored. Strange world we live in..

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

Interesting info, Justice. I was unaware until today that mass groups of animals die off regularly. I think there is a significant amount of animals nearing extinction who are ignored and things like this are brought up for media's sake... but that's just my opinion ;)

I'm honestly more interested in what caused the animals deaths. The blackbirds were said to have been startled by a loud noise but all evidence shows COD to be blunt force impact, which I'm guessing is when they hit the ground... so what caused them to fall out of the air? They were disoriented and startled out of their deep sleeps, but unless they all just fell off their branches, (which is not the case) what caused them to just... fall from the sky?

As far as the marine life, jet streams and ocean currents have been discussed relating to 'cold' or 'hot' spots. IE a wave of drastically different water sweeps over an area, and due to their inability to cope with such a sudden and dramatic change in temperature, younger, smaller, and/or weaker animals die off. Could this be the case?

Just my opinions ;)

justice · Grand Prix

This is all new to me, too, Ash, your guess is as good or better than mine! I am curious as to the actual COD also. Not sure anybody really knows yet.

Could the currents also be harboring "pockets" of degraded debris that have become toxic or germ/disease ridden? But what of the birds...

-- Edited by justice on Saturday 8th of January 2011 12:42:40 AM

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

That's a good point about the 'pockets' of debris. One of my premier thoughts on the occurrances after I ruled out birds flying into a forcefield (hey, you never know, lol), was that maybe it had something to do with the BP spill. Given that the trends seem to follow the oceans currents (and the happenings in the US seem to follow the Mississippi River) I thought maybe something from the spill and/or some affected animals were traveling along these paths and wiping out other animals en masse with some kind of infection. It doesn't entirely explain it, because it still leaves the birds including doves, as well as an incident including bats... so I'm really not too sure. My best guess thus far is the jet streams and ocean currents carrying cold/heat fronts. Guess we'll see!

justice · Grand Prix

Makes enough sense to me : )

However, this is apprarently not a new phenomena, just a newly publicized one? Evidence of mass die-offs had been noted prior to BP according to the article I read. Sorry I can't reproduce it, don't remember the details : (

Aliens....or maybe it's a big conspiracy... ; )

-- Edited by justice on Saturday 8th of January 2011 11:59:05 AM

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

The Force! Jedis have something against birds and marine life :P

justice · Grand Prix

It was the Klingons, and you know it! : D

-- Edited by justice on Saturday 8th of January 2011 01:23:17 PM

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

Shhh, I wasn't supposed to tell anyone! Now you're going to have to go through the entrance ritual and be sworn to secrecy.

justice · Grand Prix

And then I'll have to whack ya for tellin' : P

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

Trickery! I see how it is!

NaturallyUnbridled · Well Schooled

Remember the ol' "canary in the coal mine"? Miners brought birds into the coal mines to determine if there were toxic gasses in the mines - the birds would die and the miners would evacuate. My fear is that these birds left their roost due to toxic fumes and were overcome mid-flight and passed out and crashed or died then crashed. Perhaps the fumes were from the fireworks. Who knows?

I wonder if anthropologists have ever discovered any records of massive die-offs of various species back before we polluted the planet to this degree. I'd also be curious about any cancer clusters (or other diseases) in the area of these die offs - either now or in the next several years.

All in all - it's disconcerting.

justice · Grand Prix

Good point, NU! I find cancer clusters, in general, to be disconcerting. I know the processed foods and such that we indulge in as well as the methods of extreme convenience (cultured laziness in the name of efficiency?) we have designed for ourselves are largely contributing factors and it would be consistent that, with in a matter of time, our self-indulgence would supercede certain priorities.

It is sad that the animals and earth will suffer along with us in our perpetual quest for instanteanious comfort. Not that this is the sole or even close to the cause, just an overall brief bout of depression and cynicism over my species : )

Disconcerted, yes, a bit intimidated as well, I admit. Just sadly not surprised.

-- Edited by justice on Monday 17th of January 2011 10:42:25 AM

NaturallyUnbridled · Well Schooled

Thanks Justice! I heard a quote recently that sounds better than it types so say it out loud...

"Good health makes a lot of sense, but it doesn't make a lot of dollars"

Sadly - our economy is built on disease - the "food" that generates it and the drugs that "treat" it. If everyone got healthy, what would happen to our economy? Sigh... points to ponder.

justice · Grand Prix

Righty-o, it doesn't make a lot of dollars, more like it COSTS!! Health insurance and just generall healthy living, here in the States at least, is sublime, depending on what end you are on....

unhealthy citizens dependent on gov't plans and subsidized support.... CONSPIRACY!! told ya, lol : )

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

J you are so right! Not to flip this thread into a political rant, but isn't it so true that here in the states you're pretty much paid to be unhealthy and unemployed? ;)

justice · Grand Prix

Pretty much.. tho not so much 'paid' as 'freely available'. Throw in alien blood and you can freeride all the way to Paradise on the American plan, don't even have to tell us you're coming, we'll leave the light on for ya. *I*: 5th generation bred, born and will die here New Englander, tho Blue as they come, am not eligible.

(jus packs up her soapbox while grumbling)

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Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

Another reason I will very soon be an expat, packing my happy bum up to Ontario ;)

To keep this thread on track, 200 cows have turned up dead in Wisconsin. Cause unknown but speculated to be pneumonia.

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/200_DEAD_CATTLE_IN_WISCONSIN_MILLIONS_DEAD_IN_SOUTH_KOREA/39005

justice · Grand Prix

Oh Ash! I just saw that and was going to comment here! You beat me to it : )

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

Oregonians are naturally speedy people I guess ;)

justice · Grand Prix

remember that in Ontario..heh heh heh : )

soooo far off topic... sorry : 0... I will shut up now

-- Edited by justice on Wednesday 19th of January 2011 01:40:05 AM

Nikki Salo · Grand Prix

I'm curious to see a follow up of the cattle deaths, my theory is botulism via hay silage. It is commonly fed to cattle here, so it is just my idea. They point at respiratory problems caused by IBR or BVD, but botulism can also cause respiratory and death within a few hours-up to a week. Interesting stuff!

PS. if you type this into google, you'll find more articles relating to how this "affirms" Biblical prophecy then actual news reports of the cattle deaths.

Barnmouser Ash · Grand Prix

A new "development" so to speak:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41178569/ns/us_news-environment/?gt1=43001

These birds were poisoned (for good reason), which makes me wonder if perhaps other birds have gotten into the same sort of trouble? As it's been stated, mass animal deaths are rather 'popular' for lack of better terms, so the mass amounts of incidents being reported is probably a media thing (in my opinion). So is it possible that we're just noticing all these animals dying off now? Could birds/animals in other areas be getting into things like sour cattle feed, that's also killing the cattle? Or even poison?

Curiouser and curiouser...

justice · Grand Prix

just..... wow.

Nikki Salo · Grand Prix

I'm in agreement here with Ash, I think media/news now travels at lightning speed. Interesting video, I wonder what other answers are going to crop up.

NaturallyUnbridled · Well Schooled

Recently heard about mass deaths of eagles and sardines. (click links for stories)

Red flag anyone? confuse

-- Edited by NaturallyUnbridled on Sunday 13th of March 2011 03:00:00 PM

justice · Grand Prix

still WoW....

Nikki Salo · Grand Prix

@ the photo of the dead floating sardines and the fact that they are going to use them as human food fertilizer with neurotoxins in their systems.