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Yearling

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Getting over an injury....
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Hi Everyone! I'm new to Barnmice, this is my first post!

I own a 14 year old QH gelding that I've had for 8 years. He's really awesome, he'll be mine for as long as he's alive. He's done everything I've ever asked of him, and can do pretty much any english discipline. He's been totally sound, and I've been VERY lucky with him *knock wood* that his very first injury did not take place until last May. I'm a constant worry-wart and was hoping there are others out there with similar experiences with this particular injury.

As mentioned, it happened last May. I was not there to see the exact moment of injury, but when I brought him in to ride one mucky and rainy day, I noticed he had a Hunter's Bump that randomly appeared. He seemed totally normal tacking up and his usual self. I took him to the arena and lunged him, and I noticed he was really sticky but NOT lame coming down from a canter into a trot. I stopped him and felt along his back and there was a bit of heat coming from his "Hunter's Bump". I'm always one to follow gut feelings, so I didn't ride, untacked him and mentioned it to my BM. The vet was coming out to do vaccinations in 2 days time, so we decided to just have her look at him then.

The vet palpatated along his back and he flinched away from her touch. She suggested that it was a Sacroilliac Ligiment injury and to give him some time off, some Bute for a few days to help with inflammation, a smaller paddock on individual turnout and to consider a chiropractor. I did all those things. After the chiropractor adjustment, the results were amazing... he ran to the gate to see me for weeks after, whether he was turned out alone or not, something he'd never done before. I also replaced my Close Contact saddle with a wider tree dressage saddle. I think the saddle was a big part of any back issues he has. I also around July moved him to a different barn. New barn has WAY less mud, HUGE HUGE HUGE fields and he'd be on 24/7 turnout. I have no indoor arena at this new place, but considering how awesome everything else was/is I think it was a good sacrifice. My new BM is absolutely amazing... she gives me play by plays of my geldings "schedule" when I can't make it out to the barn! Over the summer I did a lot of reading on his injury, and discovered that the better physical shape he was in, the less likely it would flare up again. It all made sense, if I rode for several days in a row, he'd progressively get better. He was a bit stiff at the beginning of our rides, but not unsound. If anything, he'd take short steps with his hind end and be a bit sticky in transitions but he worked out of it. We always lunged with an underrein at the beginning of each workout and he'd trot over trotting poles as well as back up. There were also several stretches that I did/do with him before and after each ride to stretch out his muscles from the ground.

I went for a holiday at the end of August and when I came back, things were a bit different. He'd been fine jumping X's all summer but suddenly he would refuse to rock back on his bum to jump properly and his canter was so unbalanced we just never did it. He's been on Recovery EQ since his injury and just recently I started him on Recovery EQ Extra Strength because I figured the damp from this time of year might give him some bad days.
All winter I've only been out once a week, and with no arena I've just stuck to our fields. He's been really good..., energetic and extra springy. Not at all what he was around fall time 2010. I'm starting to second guess what I should do this spring/summer with him, because even though this barn has way less mud, I'm still absolutely terrified he's going to hurt himself again. He lost a lot of muscle over winter.

He had his 2nd chiro adjustment just after moving to the new barn. It was about an hour trailer ride and after going out in his new field, he kicked a bit at a pony and his back flared up again. Not nearly as bad as the first time, and I don't know if it was the kicking (which he RARELY does) or if it was the trailer. Since the adjustment again, he has been sound.

It's just such a hit or miss injury, and a lot of what I've read has talked about it being really frusterating for horse owners. I have the vet (a different one) coming out in May again to fully look over and examine his back again. I was hoping to do flexion tests and for him to watch him moving. I know that will really help... but in the mean time I'm CONSUMED with worry! Has anyone else dealt with this injury before?

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Well Schooled

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First of all, poor you! Dealing with an injured horse is never any fun. That being said, I don't have many experiences with injured horses as I don't actually have my own horse.

You may already know and do this, but when you ride, make sure you give him a long warm up and cool down. Lots of walking, stretching out long and low. Don't let him amble along slowly - maintain a good working pace. Keep up with the stretches and 24/7 turnout too.

If you can afford it, keep up with regular chiro/massage - don't wait for things to get bad. As a human with injuries, I know that one session is not enough. I personally need weekly physiotherapy to keep me sound.

If regular work helps, could you maybe find somebody to ride him when you can't? A partboarder perhaps (and the fee could pay for his chiro!)

Really, it sounds like you are doing pretty much everything right though so please try not to worry too much. Injuries happen and I'm sure your horse is thrilled to have an owner who takes the time and effort to get him back to 100%.

Oh and welcome to barnmice!

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Yearling

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Thanks so much Kathleen K!

I think I'm going to book another chiro appt before getting him into work again this Spring. Mostly, it's been the cost that has made me unable to have regular visits. I've been putting that money instead into gas to see him (he's 40 mins away from me) and into the extra strength Recovery. My car is also not that reliable, and I think I'd feel more assured if I could JUST make it out more.

I actually moved him to this barn to avoid partboarding/leasing. I've had to partboard and lease him out in the past in order to keep him at a facility with an indoor arena, but after having several bad experiences with people that ended up screwing me over in the end, I decided to move him where I could afford it and never share him again. My BM's 11 year old daughter is actually hoping to do some schooling shows this summer with him, at a series that takes place once a month and is down the road from the barn. He'd be doing mostly flat classes and any jumping would be over 2 foot courses. At least she'll be riding him (always with the supervision of my kick butt BM) while I'm not able to, I just can't help but wish I was able to get out more myself. Idealy, I'd be out 7 days a week, but being a stay at home mom with a 15 month old means less visits to the barn..., at least until nicer weather and lighter evenings.

My other big issue with him is that he's SUCH an "on the forehand" horse. I've owned him for so long and I've tried every method to keep him on his bum, before and after the injury... but SINCE the injury it's just become harder. I'm hoping to take some lessons this spring (it feels like its been forever!) that will bring some light to my situation. And kick my butt into shape.

As much as all the worrying is no fun, I can definately say the more I worry the more determined I become to make this work!

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Is your BO "paying" for the use of the horse? Maybe just the thought of him being excerised is enough for you (and that's cool, becuase if people didn't do that, I wouldn't have a horse to ride) but you could try asking for a reduction in board: aka, each time the daughter rides the horse is 5 dollars off board or something. Just an idea!


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Yearling

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I've thought about it before, but she's done me a lot of favours. She's the best BM I've ever had (and I've been to A LOT of barns) so I'd feel guilty asking for a reduction in board. She takes such good care of the horses (taking care of injuries, blanketing, holding for farrier/vet, even exercising and grooming when owners can't make it out) without asking for ANY extra money... and I don't pay much board! She's also doing me a favour by having her daughter ride him with her assistance when I can't make it out... so I kinda see it as I should be paying HER for this lol.

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Welcome to Barnmice, DustBuster! :)

I have a friend with a Saddlebred mare who has had very similar problems, and her situation is very much the same in that she is off at school all week and only has one day to ride typically, per week. Her mare didn't have a hunter bump necessarily, but did have some kind of sacroilliac injury or misalignment going on that was messing with her ability to perform. She had the chiro out after several visits from the vet and x-rays of her legs to make sure there was nothing there (discovered some old arthritis in the lower hock joints, but otherwise fine).

So far, she's in the same boat as you, so I'm interested to see what your outcome is, and what advice you gain here on Barnmice. I do wonder however, if perhaps this injury has been dormant for a while, preventing your horse from using his hindquarter at much as he should? The ASB mare is very similar in that she is constantly having to be pushed to be on the hindquarter and free up her hind end, so I'm wondering if perhaps both horses have had sacroilliac injuries lying dormant for a while? We went over OCD a lot but never really got any where with that idea. Did you talk to your vet/chiro about that possibility at all?

:) Best of luck, and I look forward to reading this thread further to see what comes of this situation!

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Yearling

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That's a really interesting thought! I've always thought that him being on the forehand and hard to pick up onto his hind end because of the way he's built. He's super long in his back, and hard to put together.

In hindsight, I think it could also be from his ill-fitting saddle. Instead of sitting on either side of his backbone, it was sitting ON TOP of his back bone, plus it was restricting shoulder movement as well.

I can't wait for my vet to examine him in May, I'm going to bombard him with questions and he's probably going to hate me by the end!

Barnmouser Ash, did your friends mare have issues with her Canter at all? Right at the beginning, my guys quality of canter immediately changed and felt so unbalanced, and apparently that is very common in SI injuries. As well as having a hard time with the farrier when having the hind feet shod or trimmed. I don't think my gelding had the worst kind of SI injury, because my farrier expressed to me that she's never had a problem trimming his back end, and after initial chiro adjustments and rest, he was going beautifully.

I think I worry more over my horse then I do my own son! (My husband points out to anyone that will listen on a regular basis that my horse is more spoiled then he is lol)

Thanks so much for the positive thoughts! :)



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My friend's mare didn't have any issues picking up her feet for the farrier/etc, but her canters were incredibly off. She would "lose" her lead in the back end to the point that she would just come down to a trot because she couldn't keep her lead together and stay balanced. Eventually her "good side" turned into her "bad side" (she has always been better at a canter to the left, which is now opposite), and because of the funky way she was moving, she ended up wearing her toes down a ton. A lot of close review of video footage allowed me to see slight gait changes at a walk and trot both mounted and in hand. We reviewed video footage all the way back as far as 3 or 4 months before she started to really show any signs, and upon closer inspection we found somewhat noticeable signs of some kind of injury.

My friend had her vet/chiro check her saddle fit and they said that it was very well fitted to her horse, except that the front is a bit low, but nothing serious. I personally think the mare is just very finely built, and doesn't necessarily have a ton of conditioning to help support her collection and a lot of jumping, but that's just my two cents. If your boy has a long back, that could be a large source of your problems. I think repeated stress on a weak area will eventually show side effects in several places, and no doubt the SI area would probably show some wear and tear after a while.

:) I'm excited to see what results come from your vet in May. Keep us updated on his progress and condition!

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