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Well Schooled

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Arthritis and Adequan
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Hi Everyone

My horse recently had Fluoroscopy on all 4 legs, and we discovered that she has some fairly extensive arthritis on her right front ankle, and moderate on her rear ankle.  We have started her on an Adequan program (4 shots the first month, then once a month after that).

I've heard good things about this treatment, but was wondering if any one else is using Adequan, and how it has worked for you?

Thanks 

 



-- Edited by Sidney on Thursday 21st of April 2011 10:47:14 AM

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From everything I have heard, Adequan is okay as a temporary pain reliever. It wears out rather quickly, and generally can get to be kind of expensive after a while. Unfortunately her arthritis isn't in the hocks, where fusing the joints is (sometimes) a good option. I'm not sure if you can fuse the fetlocks as they are much less complex than the hock joint (Fetlock being cannon bone, fetlock joint, first pastern bone, whereas the hock has 4 bones in the joint part alone, two upper and two lower. The lower two are what you can fuse, as they account for only a tiny bit of the mobility in the joint).

Perhaps someone here can give some insight into whether or not fusing the fetlock would be possible. I do know, however, that some people swear by Adequan, and some people hate it. It's kind of a "once you're on it, you're on it for good" type thing, that (as I said) needs to be re-administered quite often.

How old is your mare? If she's on the older side, and/or retired, using injections indefinitely could work out well. If she's younger, perhaps there are alternatives?

Truly sorry you have been presented with such a tough condition to have to handle with your horse. My own girl, Cassy (avatar horse), eventually succumbed to fatal arthritis in both front knees. They fused up entirely and she could no longer walk. However, I've seen many a horse live out their whole lives with mild to severe arthritis, happily. It all depends on the horse :)

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Thanks for your reply. Tango is only just turning 17 but she toes in quite badly on her right leg, so I imagine that has taken its toll on that ankle. Yes, the Adequan is expensive (about $85 a month), but if it helps, it's definitely worth it! I only use her for pleasure riding and the lameness showed up doing ring work (going to the right). So all in all, I'm hoping that she will be comfortable with light ring work and trail riding. If so, then that won't be any big change for us. I think the warmer, dryer weather will help as well.

So sorry for the loss of your Cassy....what a pretty girl, with such a kind look about her.....

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Sidney, this may be something to look into, but perhaps adding some apple cider vinegar to your horse's diet might help? Or rubbing her most affected joints with it after riding? My Grandmother swears by taking it for her joints, I've always had good luck rubbing it on my riding injuries and it always seemed to put a nice gloss on my horse (whether it worked or not). It might help in conjunction with something like Adequin.



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thanks Nikki....I haven't tried the ACV, but I have been giving her ground flax for a couple of years. It's supposed to have anti-inflamatory properties and such.....but I think we are beyond that now. I think the Adequan has positive effects for improving the quality of the synovial fluid, reducing inflamation and aid in cartilage repair (from what I have read). I guess the proof will be in the pudding about a month from now:)

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My riding teacher told me about a product "that has worked better for me than Adequan and all the others" (her words) that I am now using on an almost 30 yr old spavined Arab mare who also has an arthritic rear fetlock joint.  It is Actiflex Senior (they also make one for younger horses) from Cox Veterinary Laboratory (http://www.coxvetlab.com).  When I started riding the mare she was limping BADLY, on hemp powder, and then later on MSM she got better but she was still limping, now on the Actiflex she limps only when doing a tight turn.  Enormous improvement.  The whole stable has changed to it for arthritis.  



-- Edited by Jackie Cochran on Thursday 21st of April 2011 01:15:00 PM

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I would look into the product Jackie has suggested, it sounds like it may work well.
I second the ACV as well for temporary relief. On my (young but) arthritic joints, it definitely helps sooth and provide some relief. I've also found that MSM can make the difference between a "I'll just go for a leisurely stroll" and a "I think I'll head out on that 3 mile path" type day. We gave Cassy MSM for the last two or three years of her life and it kept her quite comfortable. Even in limping about on fused knees, she was always a pleasure to be around, hobbling out in her run-in paddock, nickering away. She could have just been a super friendly horse, but I think the MSM (and in the last few months, some bute) really helped. If anything it's a good long-term preventative measure.

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When my horse was first diagnosed with arthritis in his right front fetlock at 12 we did intra-articular injections of HA (hyaluronic acid) which helped him out I think. We were still doing eventing at the time but as his workload decreased over the years I found I no longer needed to keep up with the injections (which were only about 2x/year anyway). He's 19 now and though that fetlock is still his "weakest link" he's doing great and I still ride him 4 times a week. I think whatever the treatment option of choice, if you stay with in the boundaries of what is reasonable for the horse and dont over do it, you will go a long way to helping protect their joints and keeping them sound.

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Adequan is a profit booster for the vet who sells it to you. There is a huge mark up on it. For a cheaper source of Adequan go to this website:

http://www.petmedsnmore.com/pmm/stores/1/-Adequan-Equine-IM-5ml-7-vials-35ml-LU-MFGR-BACKORDER-Ships-61-P355C189.aspx?UserID=5010020&SessionID=KNFo39LVCINEqBZKns2V

For a product that is cheaper, you just add it to their feed and works much better go here:

http://www.figuerola.net/products/JointSaver-Equine.html

Joint Saver contains the same ingredient as Adequan plus a whole lot more. I order it from the US and with the favourable exchange rate, it is a bargain.

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Great tips, Queenrider. Have you used these products and seen the same/better results? You said you ordered the Joint Saver, so I'm guessing you used it :)

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thanks everyone.....I'll look into those suggestions. She seems to be doing better right now :)


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My friend ordered it for her gelding who ruptured his annular ligament on his right hind ankle last august. He also had arthtis in his hocks and back. After a short period on Joint Saver the swelling went down. He also now is sound and able to be ridden. she will be able to start riding him this weekend. I thought this stuff was great and they also had a human version so I tried the human version for my arthritis. What a change! I can move my fingers again, my knees are better as well.

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Hi Sidney :)

I watched this webinar from TheHorse.com yesterday as I have a keen interest in joint disease and methods to treat and prevent it. My mare (pictured in my avatar) was put down in 2005 due to severe arthritis in her knees as I said previously, so I am quite interested in the process and ways to deal with it. I found this webinar (though long, so you may have to watch in parts) to be quite informative and eye opening. I highly suggest it :)

Managing Equine Joint Disease

 

Cheers, and let us know if you learn anything new!



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    Adequan is best used in horses BEFORE osteoarthritis is severe.  It helps with pain, but only because it is the ONLY product that has proven (because it is an FDA product) to CHANGE THE DISEASE STATE.  It supports chondrocytes to actually help to repair damaged cartilage in the joints.. however, it can not replace lost cartilage.  A veterinarian is trained to use FDA products that have been researched - with efficacy and safety studies behind them... it isn't about generating money for the vet.  However, a veterinarian does have bills to pay as well... they are not charity organizations.   

   I personally love using Omega-3s derived from fish for my horses and have found it to be superior in decreasing healing time, improving mental clarity and supports joint (and cellular) health.  Acupuncture is also ideal for pain relief and/or management (depending on the condition and the state of the condition).

    I would be suspect of all of the "mix supplements" and food additives on the market because there is no regulation on supplements and no means of guaranteeing you are getting any active ingredient - or that the active ingredient will do what the manufacturer claims.  And the NASC seal is actually bought, not earned.  

Best of luck (I know this thread is old :) 



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Fizzi, how much fish oil do you give?

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I use WellPride and I put 1oz over their feed once daily.



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hi all......just to let you know, since I started this post, the Adequan has been working very well. We are not a high performance team, but for light ring work and trail riding, I have found a great improvement.

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We use Adequan prophylactically on our competitive horses. We've also started our 25 year old mare on it, she's in light work. Works like a hot damn.

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   I know this is an equine forum, but if you have any aging dogs or dogs that are predisposed to  osteoarthritis (danes, labs, GSDs, etc) There is a K-9 formulation that works just as well on our furry companions... worked wonders for my Berner.  Just FYI.. :)



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